Unashamed with the Robertson Family

When Lisa Faced the Darkest Night of Her Life, Al Saw Light Break Through

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55 min·October 16, 2025

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Jase opens with a $5 wager that most of us think too small about “redemption.” Zach points out that most people treat redemption like a “get-out-of-hell free” card, but it actually goes much deeper than that. Al describes what a truly redeemed life looks like because he saw it with his own eyes in Lisa’s life. The guys also tackle a controversial verse in Hebrews about a “better” resurrection and why it matters.


In this episode: Luke 21, verse 28; Luke 2, verse 38; Romans 3, verses 22–26; Romans 5, verse 17; Romans 6, verses 12–23; Romans 8, verses 1–4, 23; 1 Corinthians 1, verse 30; Ephesians 1, verses 7 and 13–14; Ephesians 4, verse 30; Colossians 1, verses 13–14; Hebrews 4, verses 15–16; Hebrews 9, verses 12, 15, and 18; Hebrews 11, verse 35


Chapters:

00:00-11:23 Jase & Zach Make a Wager

11:24-19:51 We’re Living in Redemption Now

19:52-26:03 The “Get Out of Hell Free” Card

26:04-32:47 Our God Has Scars

32:48-38:11 Sin & Skin Separate Us From God

38:12-48:52 The Tenth Redemption Scripture

48:53-58:04 Coming to God With a Clean Conscience

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