Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1281 | Satanic or Sanctified? Skillet Gets Real About Christmas Controversy | John Cooper

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1h 4m·December 20, 2025

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Allie welcomes Skillet front man John Cooper for a heartfelt Christmas episode. They unpack the backlash to Skillet’s heavy metal “O Come, O Come Emmanuel” and dispel any misconceptions that it is demonic. John shares about his own faith journey from strict legalism to rock gospel and highlights the power of music in evangelism. Amid controversy, John shares how a TV commercial featuring a song by him led two adult industry workers to find Christ and how the death of Charlie Kirk influenced the recording session for Skillet's latest single. Tune in for raw faith, redemption stories, and why true worship defies genre lines.


Check out Skillet's music video for "O Come, O Come Emmanuel" here: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiErbpZHfbk


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Timecodes:


(00:00) Intro

(03:20) New Christmas Song

(11:30) Perception of Rock Music

(17:20) Dangers of Deconstruction

(26:40) Forming the Band Skillet

(34:30) Sharing the Gospel on Tour

(45:15) False Prosperity Gospel

(49:00) Importance of Worship

(55:30) State of the Music Industry

(59:45) Christ's Second Advent


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