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Shepherds in the Storm: Why Pastors Can’t Stay Silent with Pastor Phil Hopper

32 min·February 9, 2026
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About this Episode

In every generation, God raises up shepherds who are willing to speak the truth—even when it costs them. In this Shepherds in the Storm episode, I’m joined by my friend Pastor Phil Hopper, lead pastor of Abundant Life Church, to talk about why the church was never meant to be silent. We unpack the fear keeping pastors quiet, why today’s biggest issues are biblical—not political—and why courage in the pulpit matters more than ever. If you’re a pastor, church leader, or believer longing for clarity and conviction in a confusing culture, this conversation will encourage you.


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